{"id":4269409,"date":"2022-05-20T08:21:00","date_gmt":"2022-05-20T06:21:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.deptagency.com\/insight\/5-conversations-every-cmo-cto-should-have\/"},"modified":"2025-12-08T13:41:06","modified_gmt":"2025-12-08T11:41:06","slug":"5-conversations-every-cmo-cto-should-have","status":"publish","type":"article","link":"https:\/\/www.deptagency.com\/en-au\/insight\/5-conversations-every-cmo-cto-should-have\/","title":{"rendered":"5 conversations every CMO &#038; CTO should have"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"block-article-post-header js-block-article-post-header block-article-post-header__theme--onyxGrey\">\n\t<button\tclass=\"cta-button block-article-post-header__back-button cta-button__color--white cta-button__style--back\" aria-label=\"Back\" >\n\t<svg width='41' height='41' viewBox='0 0 41 41' fill='none' xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg'><circle cx='20.5' cy='20.5' r='19.5' transform='rotate(-90 20.5 20.5)' stroke='var(--dept-button-icon-outline-color)' stroke-width='1.3' stroke-miterlimit='10' fill='none'\/><circle class='icon-backplate' cx='20.5' cy='20.5' r='19.5' transform='rotate(-90 20.5 20.5)' fill='var(--dept-button-icon-backplate-color)' fill-opacity='1'\/><path class='icon-center' d='M21.174 30 11 20.674l10.174-9.326m-9.326 9.328H30.5' stroke='var(--dept-button-icon-color)' stroke-width='1.3' stroke-miterlimit='10' fill='none'\/><\/svg>\n\t\t\t<span>\n\t\t\tBack to all articles\t\t<\/span>\n\t\n<\/button><h1\t\tclass=\"typography block-article-post-header__title typography__color--white typography__size--h1 typography__align--left\"\n\t\t\t>\n\t\t5 conversations every CMO &#038; CTO should have\t<\/h1><div\n\t\tclass=\"image-wrap block-article-post-header__image-wrap\"\n\t\tdata-align=\"center center\"\n\t\t\t>\n\n\t\t\t<picture\n\t\tclass=\"image__picture\"\n\t\t\t\t>\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\n\t\t\t<img\n\t\t\t\tsrc=\"https:\/\/www.deptagency.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/business-meeting-conversations.jpg\"\n\t\t\t\tclass=\"image block-article-post-header__image\"\n\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tloading=\"lazy\"\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\/>\n\t\t<\/picture>\n\t\n\t<\/div><div class=\"author block-article-post-header__author\" data-animation=\"slide-fade\">\n\t\t\t<img\n\t\t\tclass=\"author__portrait\"\n\t\t\tsrc=\"https:\/\/www.deptagency.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/kelsey-headshot-150x150.jpeg\"\n\t\t\talt=\"Kelsey Anderson\"\n\t\t\/>\n\t\n\t<div class=\"author__text\">\n\t\tKelsey Anderson\t\t<br \/>\n\t\tSr. Content Marketing Manager\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\t<div class=\"block-article-post-header__meta\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"block-article-post-header__meta-date\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"block-article-post-header__date-description\">\n\t\t\t\t\tDate\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"block-article-post-header__published-date\">\n\t\t\t\t\t20 May 2022\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"block-title-and-content js-block-title-and-content block-title-and-content__theme--white\">\n\t<div class=\"block-title-and-content__layout\">\n\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"block-title-and-content__content\">\n\t\t\t\t\n<p\t\tclass=\"typography block-typography__typography typography__color--onyxGrey typography__size--regular-body typography__align--left\"\n\t\t\t>\n\t\tTechnology and marketing functions have never been more intertwined. Digital innovation and marketing data have empowered both areas to produce better products and campaigns at scale.\u00a0\t<\/p>\n\n<h2\t\tclass=\"typography block-typography__typography typography__color--onyxGrey typography__size--h6 typography__align--left\"\n\t\t\t>\n\t\tHowever, it\u2019s a very different story when it comes to the teams that make up marketing and engineering.\u00a0\t<\/h2>\n\n<p\t\tclass=\"typography block-typography__typography typography__color--onyxGrey typography__size--regular-body typography__align--left\"\n\t\t\t>\n\t\tWith headlines like <a href=\"https:\/\/sloanreview.mit.edu\/article\/organization-marketers-and-engineers-why-cant-we-just-get-along\/\">Marketers and Engineers: Why Can&#8217;t We Just Get Along?<\/a> It&#8217;s no surprise that these two teams don\u2019t always hold hands and sing kumbaya.\u00a0<br><br>This tension is due to a few things, including inter-department culture, risk aversion, duties, and conflicting personalities.\u00a0<br><br>The relationship and silo between marketing and engineering are exactly why leadership, namely CMOs and CTOs, should create a working relationship.\u00a0<br><br>The best place to start? <br><br>Conversations around teamwork, resourcing, and priorities.\u00a0\u00a0<br><br>Here are a few crucial conversations that marketing and engineering leaders should have to unify their teams and create a culture of collaboration.\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\n\t<div class=\"block-title-and-content__social-links\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a\n\t\t\t\thref=\"https:\/\/www.deptagency.com\/en-au\/insight\/5-conversations-every-cmo-cto-should-have\/\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-url=\"https:\/\/www.deptagency.com\/en-au\/insight\/5-conversations-every-cmo-cto-should-have\/\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-title=\"5 conversations every CMO &#038; 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priorities?\t<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"block-title-and-content__content\">\n\t\t\t\t\n<p\t\tclass=\"typography block-typography__typography typography__color--bodyOnBlack typography__size--regular-body typography__align--left\"\n\t\t\t>\n\t\tMarketing and engineering teams move at vastly different speeds, which can cause friction.\u00a0\u00a0<br><br>Marketing and creative teams move quickly because they\u2019re working inside established systems. And engineering teams tend to work slower because they must consider the backend plus things like security.\u00a0<br><br>It isn\u2019t rare for a marketing team to say, \u201cwe need a landing page tomorrow.\u201d For engineers, this way of working can be hard, or even impossible when there are valid technical concerns that marketing is unaware of.\u00a0<br><br>Therefore, CMOs and CTOs should discuss their teams&#8217; priorities, and how they can balance both.\u00a0<br><br>Both leaders should understand what kind of tasks require more engineering work than meets the eye e.g., integrating data from third parties, processing credit cards, and processing personal data.\u00a0\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\n\t<div class=\"block-title-and-content__social-links\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a\n\t\t\t\thref=\"https:\/\/www.deptagency.com\/en-au\/insight\/5-conversations-every-cmo-cto-should-have\/\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-url=\"https:\/\/www.deptagency.com\/en-au\/insight\/5-conversations-every-cmo-cto-should-have\/\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-title=\"5 conversations every CMO &#038; 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Not all new features are ideal for a marketing campaign (users don\u2019t download an app because of its SSO capabilities).\u00a0\u00a0<br><br>Also, product and engineering teams are more focused on continuous discovery\/delivery while a marketing team might be optimized via quarterly campaigns.\u00a0<br><br>However, don\u2019t let these differences in approach discourage frequent roadmap collaboration.\u00a0<br><br>Marketing teams should join roadmap meetings several times per year. Without that perspective, your marketing strategy won\u2019t be as effective.\u00a0<br><br>How often is ultimately up to you, but it\u2019s worth having a conversation to hash out the details.\u00a0\u00a0\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\n\t<div class=\"block-title-and-content__social-links\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a\n\t\t\t\thref=\"https:\/\/www.deptagency.com\/en-au\/insight\/5-conversations-every-cmo-cto-should-have\/\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-url=\"https:\/\/www.deptagency.com\/en-au\/insight\/5-conversations-every-cmo-cto-should-have\/\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-title=\"5 conversations every CMO &#038; CTO should have\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-type=\"copy\"\n\t\t\t\tclass=\"block-title-and-content__social-links-item js-social-link\"\n\t\t\t\taria-label=\"Copy page link\"\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tdata-tooltip=\"true\"\n\t\t\t\t\tdata-tooltip-text=\"Link copied to clipboard.\"\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t>\n\t\t\t\t<svg fill='none' xmlns='http: \/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg' width='22' height='22' viewBox='0 0 22 22'><path d='M6.832 15.167l8.333-8.333M9.332 6.001l2.787-2.787a4.715 4.715 0 016.666 0v0a4.715 4.715 0 010 6.667L16 12.668M5.999 9.334l-2.787 2.787a4.715 4.715 0 000 6.666v0a4.715 4.715 0 006.667 0l2.787-2.786' stroke='currentColor' stroke-width='2'\/><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<a\n\t\t\t\thref=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deptagency.com%2Fen-au%2Finsight%2F5-conversations-every-cmo-cto-should-have%2F\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-url=\"https:\/\/www.deptagency.com\/en-au\/insight\/5-conversations-every-cmo-cto-should-have\/\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-title=\"5 conversations every CMO &#038; 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CTO should have\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-type=\"linkedin\"\n\t\t\t\tclass=\"block-title-and-content__social-links-item js-social-link\"\n\t\t\t\taria-label=\"Share to Linkedin\"\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\ttarget=\"_blank\"\n\t\t\t\t\trel=\"noopener noreferrer\"\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t>\n\t\t\t\t<svg width='19' height='18' viewBox='0 0 19 18' fill='none' xmlns='http: \/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg'><path d='M1.15 17.3h3.6V5.8h-3.6v11.5zM.75 2.1c0 1.2 1 2.1 2.1 2.1 1.2 0 2.1-.9 2.1-2.1 0-1.2-1-2.1-2.1-2.1-1.2 0-2.1 1-2.1 2.1zM14.45 17.3h3.6v-6.2c0-3.1-.7-5.5-4.3-5.5-1.8 0-2.9.9-3.4 1.8V5.8h-3.4v11.5h3.6v-5.7c0-1.5.2-2.9 2.1-2.9 1.8 0 1.8 1.7 1.8 3v5.6z' fill='currentColor'\/><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"block-title-and-content js-block-title-and-content block-title-and-content__theme--onyxGrey\">\n\t<div class=\"block-title-and-content__layout\">\n\t\t<h2\t\tclass=\"typography block-title-and-content__title typography__color--white typography__size--h2 typography__align--left\"\n\t\tdata-size-mobile=\"h2\" \t>\n\t\tWhat kind of internal resources can marketing use?\u00a0\t<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"block-title-and-content__content\">\n\t\t\t\t\n<p\t\tclass=\"typography block-typography__typography typography__color--bodyOnBlack typography__size--regular-body typography__align--left\"\n\t\t\t>\n\t\tWithout a real policy in place, marketing teams are constantly asking engineers for favors. This can create hostility between teams, de-prioritization, and even missed deadlines.\u00a0<br><br>If using an internal team, marketing leaders need to work with technology to budget for internal resources. This probably looks like a monthly allotment of hours, with the engineering team \u201cbilling\u201d the marketing department. It could be one dedicated engineer, or more flexible. <br><br>There are many ways to make this work, but it\u2019s a good idea to create a clear plan.\u00a0<br><br>If using external resources, there are likely additional conversations to have around security and team integration.\u00a0\t<\/p>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\n\t<div class=\"block-title-and-content__social-links\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a\n\t\t\t\thref=\"https:\/\/www.deptagency.com\/en-au\/insight\/5-conversations-every-cmo-cto-should-have\/\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-url=\"https:\/\/www.deptagency.com\/en-au\/insight\/5-conversations-every-cmo-cto-should-have\/\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-title=\"5 conversations every CMO &#038; CTO should have\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-type=\"copy\"\n\t\t\t\tclass=\"block-title-and-content__social-links-item js-social-link\"\n\t\t\t\taria-label=\"Copy page link\"\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tdata-tooltip=\"true\"\n\t\t\t\t\tdata-tooltip-text=\"Link copied to clipboard.\"\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t>\n\t\t\t\t<svg fill='none' xmlns='http: \/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg' width='22' height='22' viewBox='0 0 22 22'><path d='M6.832 15.167l8.333-8.333M9.332 6.001l2.787-2.787a4.715 4.715 0 016.666 0v0a4.715 4.715 0 010 6.667L16 12.668M5.999 9.334l-2.787 2.787a4.715 4.715 0 000 6.666v0a4.715 4.715 0 006.667 0l2.787-2.786' stroke='currentColor' stroke-width='2'\/><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<a\n\t\t\t\thref=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.deptagency.com%2Fen-au%2Finsight%2F5-conversations-every-cmo-cto-should-have%2F\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-url=\"https:\/\/www.deptagency.com\/en-au\/insight\/5-conversations-every-cmo-cto-should-have\/\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-title=\"5 conversations every CMO &#038; 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CTO should have\"\n\t\t\t\tdata-share-type=\"linkedin\"\n\t\t\t\tclass=\"block-title-and-content__social-links-item js-social-link\"\n\t\t\t\taria-label=\"Share to Linkedin\"\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\ttarget=\"_blank\"\n\t\t\t\t\trel=\"noopener noreferrer\"\n\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t>\n\t\t\t\t<svg width='19' height='18' viewBox='0 0 19 18' fill='none' xmlns='http: \/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg'><path d='M1.15 17.3h3.6V5.8h-3.6v11.5zM.75 2.1c0 1.2 1 2.1 2.1 2.1 1.2 0 2.1-.9 2.1-2.1 0-1.2-1-2.1-2.1-2.1-1.2 0-2.1 1-2.1 2.1zM14.45 17.3h3.6v-6.2c0-3.1-.7-5.5-4.3-5.5-1.8 0-2.9.9-3.4 1.8V5.8h-3.4v11.5h3.6v-5.7c0-1.5.2-2.9 2.1-2.9 1.8 0 1.8 1.7 1.8 3v5.6z' fill='currentColor'\/><\/svg>\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n<div class=\"block-title-and-content js-block-title-and-content block-title-and-content__theme--onyxGrey\">\n\t<div class=\"block-title-and-content__layout\">\n\t\t<h2\t\tclass=\"typography block-title-and-content__title typography__color--white typography__size--h2 typography__align--left\"\n\t\tdata-size-mobile=\"h2\" \t>\n\t\tWhere does the technical risk lie in marketing?\u00a0\t<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"block-title-and-content__content\">\n\t\t\t\t\n<p\t\tclass=\"typography block-typography__typography typography__color--bodyOnBlack typography__size--regular-body typography__align--left\"\n\t\t\t>\n\t\tHopping on the latest marketing trend the day after a cultural phenomenon might be part of your team\u2019s marketing strategy.\u00a0<br><br>However, fast and furious marketing campaigns do have technical risks. The engineering team needs to be aware of these risks, and marketing understands the implications.\u00a0<br><br>Without this, you end up with bugs and broken websites during peak traffic.\u00a0<br><br>Marketing and tech leaders should discuss philosophy, marketing strategy, and technology requirements on an ongoing basis. 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